Photo Cafe' Beach Lounge ~ Chat Transcript ~ 19th March, 2022 H.11:00 AM SLT
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[2022/03/19 11:09:40] Duraya Resident: Hello everyone, lovely to see you all 🙂 Welcome to the new place!
[2022/03/19 11:10:14] Duraya Resident: Remember last time Kika presented the Photo Cafe Workshop Project?!?
[2022/03/19 11:10:28] Duraya Resident: We already got 9!!! workshops on that list.
[2022/03/19 11:11:12] Duraya Resident: Kika will sum up what is important to know. Ready Kika?
[2022/03/19 11:11:35] Kika Yongho: Are you all ready?
[2022/03/19 11:12:49] Kika Yongho: Hello Photographer friends and welcome to the new location, lovingly decorated by our Violette from Wonderland 2.0 sim! A great reference for fantasy inspired sims!
[2022/03/19 11:13:29] Kika Yongho: So, today’s topic is.. Workshops! As we mentioned last time, the XLS spreadsheet is ready and we have as I speak already NINE workshops set! Congrats all, really a good job! If you don’t believe me, you can check the file shared online here:
[2022/03/19 11:14:13] Kika Yongho: So what do we want from you today? We always want more from you! LOL! So, for those of you who didn’t find a topic or want suggestions on what they could propose to us as a workshop.. I want to offer our help from the whole Staff to fill in the XLS!
[2022/03/19 11:15:17] Kika Yongho: And! For those of you who have a workshop out (some have even two!).. Pls remember to express your interest in subscribing to your other photographers’ workshops!
[2022/03/19 11:16:17] Kika Yongho: What next? Did you join the news at the info wagon? The brand new group
If not, please do so you will be updated with the next phase that will be choosing your date, time and location for the workshop! In fact, we will have also a new location available: Art Korner classroom! Bigger and better!
[2022/03/19 11:16:48] Frank Atisso: Yes, of course … my place is yours to use as you want
[2022/03/19 11:17:37] Kika Yongho: We have Art Korner kiosk at landing point again so pls check their news also!
[2022/03/19 11:17:57] Kika Yongho: BTW.. did you know we had an events calendar? Check it out here:
and start to think about your desired date! Possibly after Easter, to plan in advance with no rush!
[2022/03/19 11:19:18] Kika Yongho: So after Easter and location.. THINK and think MOAR! :)))
[2022/03/19 11:19:20] Kika Yongho: We hope you enjoy the new location, the new activities and features and feel free to take a look around and explore! Thank you all for your attention and let’s go ahead with our agenda! Duraya please and thanks again!
[2022/03/19 11:19:42] Duraya Resident: thank you Kika!
[2022/03/19 11:20:00] Duraya Resident: And thanks for finding this place – it’s awesome
[2022/03/19 11:20:16] Duraya Resident: There were a lot of questions around those workshops last time so we couldn’t finish our‚ expressing emotions in photography‘.
[2022/03/19 11:20:29] Duraya Resident: We did get as far as using expression HUDs and tataaa –immediately after the cafe a first workshop offered by Andrew about using animations was on the list!
[2022/03/19 11:21:02] Duraya Resident: I am glad there are so many technically skilled photographers here to pass on their tips and tricks.
[2022/03/19 11:21:18] Duraya Resident: Today I will just continue with the more basic aspects, maybe initiating even more workshops!
[2022/03/19 11:21:38] Duraya Resident: Facial expression is only one means to transport emotions
[2022/03/19 11:21:56] Duraya Resident: we know that body language makes up the larger part of human communication
[2022/03/19 11:22:13] Duraya Resident: lift your head and straighten your shoulders and you will feel and look self-confident
[2022/03/19 11:22:32] Duraya Resident: bow your head a bit and sit relaxed and you will look thoughtful, maybe mysterious, not easily transparent
[2022/03/19 11:22:50] Duraya Resident: let your head and shoulders drop and you will be close to depression
[2022/03/19 11:23:00] Duraya Resident: you can try if you want
[2022/03/19 11:23:08] Duraya Resident: not the depression please!
[2022/03/19 11:23:25] Duraya Resident: Inworld and on Marketplace we find an abundance of poses to enhance depicting emotions and devices for fine-tuning those.
[2022/03/19 11:23:47] Duraya Resident: Expression comes in many shapes and forms.
[2022/03/19 11:24:03] Duraya Resident: In photography, it is mainly through subject selection, composition, and post-processing.
[2022/03/19 11:24:30] Duraya Resident: Humans, nature, light, darkness, shadows, cities, food, lifestyle, age, abstract, shapes, juxtaposition, streets, interactions, animals, and all the others you can think of may be used as amplifiers of emotions in photography.
[2022/03/19 11:25:25] Duraya Resident: I am mentioning light just for the sake of completeness because that’s established – low key, dark tones for mystery, fear, the unknown, high key, light tones for comfort, happiness, well-being.
[2022/03/19 11:25:49] Duraya Resident: And everything in between depending on your style and personal taste
[2022/03/19 11:26:13] Duraya Resident: Windlights provide an abundance of options, using projectors add too.
[2022/03/19 11:26:54] Duraya Resident: About perspectives – remember these are hints not rules
[2022/03/19 11:27:15] Duraya Resident: shooting from below may show power, strength and dominance
[2022/03/19 11:27:32] Duraya Resident: head-on can be confrontation
[2022/03/19 11:27:50] Duraya Resident: shooting from far away may imply you are a casual bystander
[2022/03/19 11:28:58] Duraya Resident: see for yourself what feeling you get from those shots
[2022/03/19 11:31:35] Duraya Resident: examples for close and distant – I liked how the bee felt less dangerous to me from a distance
[2022/03/19 11:32:51] Duraya Resident: okay – more thoughts and hints:
[2022/03/19 11:33:03] Duraya Resident: use signs, backgrounds, anything around the image that helps to understand it better, a series can build up a context by and by
[2022/03/19 11:33:25] Duraya Resident: DOF will subtract context and focus attention to the subject, we talked about that before.
[2022/03/19 11:34:07] Duraya Resident: providing a lot of context will make us explore the interactions of the subject with the environment
[2022/03/19 11:34:40] Duraya Resident: every choice we make help or prohibit reading the emotions involved
[2022/03/19 11:35:02] Duraya Resident: blurring everything might invite the viewer to guess, invent their own stories
[2022/03/19 11:37:09] Duraya Resident: so you see the same people with different backgrounds – it’s obvious the background makes you feel different about the shots
[2022/03/19 11:38:14] Duraya Resident: I am aware you know that all and use these ideas in your art
[2022/03/19 11:38:30] Frank Atisso: c
[2022/03/19 11:38:39] Duraya Resident: for me It’s interesting to make it salient and be able to plan better
[2022/03/19 11:40:20] Duraya Resident: same here – the props and signs inform and make the shots understandable
[2022/03/19 11:40:30] Duraya Resident: look at the one with the covid sign
[2022/03/19 11:40:55] Duraya Resident: if it wouldn’t be there you could as well think some dark figures were about to rob a bank
[2022/03/19 11:41:42] Duraya Resident: Frank you have a comment?
[2022/03/19 11:42:00] Frank Atisso: There are different types of blurs as well which communicate differently with a viewer … one is of course the standard blur where things are smudgy/out of focus … another is the motion blur … where a thing is stretched only in a single direction.
[2022/03/19 11:42:56] Frank Atisso: The motion blur is hard to achieve inworld and needs to be done using an external software…. the other can be done inworld of course 🙂
[2022/03/19 11:42:59] Frank Atisso: done
[2022/03/19 11:43:08] Kika Yongho: c
[2022/03/19 11:43:25] Duraya Resident: thank you Frank
[2022/03/19 11:43:31] Duraya Resident: Kika your turn
[2022/03/19 11:43:50] Kika Yongho: Agreed with Frank but also suggesting for those who can (just Windows unfortunately) to try out also Black Dragon features. Done
[2022/03/19 11:44:08] Duraya Resident: thank you Kika
[2022/03/19 11:45:27] Andrew (AndrewHarlan55 Resident): c
[2022/03/19 11:45:47] Duraya Resident: So Frank hinted about post-processing already and Kika informed about Black Dragon
[2022/03/19 11:45:57] Duraya Resident: yes Andrew
[2022/03/19 11:46:37] Andrew (AndrewHarlan55 Resident): I was just going to comment on how the juxtaposition of the expected emotion/posture in the grim reaper picture plays such a role in how you read it.
[2022/03/19 11:46:39] Andrew (AndrewHarlan55 Resident): done
[2022/03/19 11:46:58] Duraya Resident: thank you
[2022/03/19 11:47:26] Duraya Resident: I think post-processing requires an own discussion.
[2022/03/19 11:47:50] Duraya Resident: Together with all the above means it defines ‚the style of the artist a lot I believe and we keep that in mind for a future cafe and one or two workshops ;-).
[2022/03/19 11:49:23] Michiel Bechir: c
[2022/03/19 11:49:53] Duraya Resident: yes Michiel, your comment please
[2022/03/19 11:50:13] Michiel Bechir: the 2nd photo does me remind of Edvard Munch
[2022/03/19 11:50:18] Michiel Bechir: The scream
[2022/03/19 11:50:20] Michiel Bechir: done
[2022/03/19 11:51:07] Duraya Resident: yes – if he would have used photography instead of painting it could have come out like this 😀
[2022/03/19 11:51:12] Elfi Siemens: c
[2022/03/19 11:51:26] Duraya Resident: Elfi is next
[2022/03/19 11:51:40] Elfi Siemens: spontaneous idea for a fun challenge:
[2022/03/19 11:52:16] Elfi Siemens: “interpret a classic painting using SL and your own style”
[2022/03/19 11:52:18] Elfi Siemens: or so.
[2022/03/19 11:52:34] Duraya Resident: I think this is a wonderful idea
[2022/03/19 11:52:35] Violette (Violette Rembrandt): cool idea
[2022/03/19 11:52:38] Kika Yongho: smiles enigmatically like a Mona Lisa
[2022/03/19 11:52:40] Elfi Siemens: maybe one painting for all or to each their own choice
[2022/03/19 11:52:42] Elfi Siemens: done
[2022/03/19 11:53:16] Duraya Resident: let’s vote – who is for one for all?
[2022/03/19 11:53:33] Elfi Siemens: me
[2022/03/19 11:53:38] Duraya Resident: raise voice instead of hands 😉
[2022/03/19 11:53:44] Elfi Siemens: could be really interesting
[2022/03/19 11:54:07] Kika Yongho: I second that
[2022/03/19 11:54:26] Duraya Resident: more?
[2022/03/19 11:55:25] Duraya Resident: okay – then who is for each their own choice?
[2022/03/19 11:55:31] Andrew (AndrewHarlan55 Resident): raises hand.
[2022/03/19 11:56:25] Kika Yongho: I take their 2 votes as a YES
[2022/03/19 11:56:38] Kika Yongho: UNLESS someone have another idea
[2022/03/19 11:56:45] Moki Yuitza: i cannot raise my hand, for me its the same… and i am not sure to be able to participate…. °͜°
[2022/03/19 11:57:05] Violette (Violette Rembrandt): it’s a good damn idea
[2022/03/19 11:57:17] Duraya Resident: awww Moki I love your work – I hope you can
[2022/03/19 11:57:40] Moki Yuitza: it is, indeed, but for me, mostly it depends from the subject
[2022/03/19 11:57:41] Elfi Siemens: how about just taking all those who didn’t vote as a yes too? 😉
[2022/03/19 11:57:57] Kika Yongho: But more ideas are always welcome
[2022/03/19 11:58:10] Kika Yongho: Constructive thinking 🙂
[2022/03/19 11:58:11] Duraya Resident: I do love the idea
[2022/03/19 11:58:30] Kika Yongho: “What about..?” > “No”
[2022/03/19 11:58:37] Duraya Resident: and we have a 2:1 result, the others didn’t vote
[2022/03/19 11:58:42] Kika Yongho: Aww
[2022/03/19 11:58:50] Kika Yongho: “No” > silence 😛
[2022/03/19 11:59:10] Andrew (AndrewHarlan55 Resident): And mine’s still a “Yes” – just for any piece of classic artwork.
[2022/03/19 11:59:12] Duraya Resident: it’s a challenge and a fun challenge – nothing to lose, a lot to gain 😀
[2022/03/19 11:59:35] Violette (Violette Rembrandt): it’s a yes for me 😉
[2022/03/19 11:59:35] Duraya Resident: we will find something nice
[2022/03/19 12:00:01] Moki Yuitza: i could vote, but if i’ll not participate, my vote has not value at all °͜°
[2022/03/19 12:00:09] Kika Yongho: Vote anyway
[2022/03/19 12:00:16] Moki Yuitza: ok, one for all
[2022/03/19 12:00:30] Duraya Resident: okay then it’s all
[2022/03/19 12:00:57] Duraya Resident: we will find some suggestions and present next time
[2022/03/19 12:01:24] Duraya Resident: and that will be on the 2nd of April if I am right
[2022/03/19 12:01:39] Kika Yongho: yes Duraya
[2022/03/19 12:02:07] Duraya Resident: great, see you all in a fortnight and thanks for joining in 🙂